45 minutes ago Tottenham Hotspur announced the allocation of tickets for our much-awaited cup-tie versus Ars***l – 5186. On the face of it, that’s a big number, more than we get for league matches. The reality is, nearly half of what we are due has been stolen from us, yet another example of how fans these days are reduced to background extras for TV and cash cows as far as clubs are concerned.
As I understand it, away clubs are entitled to 15% of the tickets in FA Cup games. At Spurs we have seen season ticket holders evicted from their seats in order to accommodate this allocation in the Park Lane, surely the only club in the country that turfs out fans from its own end, thus diminishing the potential vocal support for the sake of compliance.
That’s bad enough but at least we get the same favours when we travel to other grounds, right? Wrong, at least as far as Ars***l are concerned. We should have got 9000. Instead we have 8.64%. The most amazing thing is, I wonder why we ever believed we would get our fair share in the first place.
Earlier this week, after much speculation in social media, I heard that Spurs were going to apply for the full allocation. We also heard that it was to be a 5.15 kick-off at the behest of ITV. Everyone rolled their eyes – hard-fought derby kicking off after an afternoon’s drinking time. Madness.
In today’s statement, the club confirm they did indeed apply for the full whack. They continue:
“Following lengthy conversations, Ars***l Footbal Club has advised us that on safety and security grounds, experienced at previous cup fixtures this season, they are only able to provide an allocation of 5186”
It goes on to make some mealy-mouthed points coming straight from the Emirates press office about segregation, ‘not possible’, but I can’t be bothered to read them again let alone type them out.
This won’t take long. TV moved the game to a time which in my view jeopardized the safety of fans planning to attend and made safety considerations even more of an issue than they were before.
The clubs accepted this because it means a hefty fee. It may well be a contractual arrangement, I don’t know and would be happy for someone to tell me, one way or the other.
So television makes the rules and the clubs go along with it like itsy-bitsy cuddly-wuddly ducklings trailing along meekly behind mother mallard. ITV can take a decision that boosts their advertising revenue and we the fans suffer for it.
Health and safety is the prime consideration at football matches. I was at Hillsborough for the Spurs v Wolves semi-final, pushed right down the front. I’ve been going to football since 1967 through the bad old days. Don’t lecture me about safety.
But if safety were such an over-riding concern, don’t kick off at 5.15. It isn’t you see the prime consideration. Safety comes into play only after the money has been sorted out.
It also provides a convenient smokescreen for clubs. Look at the wording of the Gunners’ statement: ‘only able to provide’, ‘not possible’. Like a series of mysterious health and safety gods have prevailed, compelling them to make a decision that was out of their worldly powers. No – they sat down and took this decision. People. Flesh and blood human beings. Don’t know who, lucky for me really because a libel suit would surely be coming my way if I speculated, as really, I could not have stopped myself.
Further proof, if any were needed, that supporters come bottom of the dungheap when it comes to the modern game. Like I say, my excitement at this plum cup draw distorted my perceptions and made me consider the possibility, the merest possibility, that we might get our fair whack.
I understand that there were significant crowd problems when Chel**a visited recently. So how come Spurs fans are punished for that?
I may be able to get a ticket, certainly could if there were an allocation of 9000. There’s a degree of self-interest in this column therefore. But you know what, if I hadn’t, I would have been equally proud of the noise from my fellow Spurs fans who had made it, because they would have brought the wretched soulless red and white bowl tumbling to the earth.
They didn’t want us there, we know that, but that club are not the only ones to blame for this filthy slimeball of a decision. When they come to the Lane, they can be allocated one of the West Stand boxes, seems proportionate. Let’s have a sweepstake as to a) how soon the ITV commentators go on about the atmosphere at this great old derby and b) how many times they mention the atmosphere during 90 minutes. That’s all we are to them, background noise and sound effects.
This is a great old fixture, genuine, real, tangible. It has generated huge excitement and will create interest in a cup competition the real fans love but it is less interesting as each season passes. Want to know why? Because of decisions like this. These derbies will die if things go on like this. Money, TV and executives killing the game. Our game.
The Trust and Spirit of Shankly from Liverpool are protesting on Sunday against high ticket prices, details on the Trust’s site in the links list to your right. Stay behind for 20 minutes after the match. It’s not much but it is doing something. Let them hear what we think.
Well ranted sir.
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NOT ONCE HAVE WE HAD OUR FULL ALLOCATION AT THAT SCUMS IS IT SPURS WANTING TO CHARGE OTT. CHAVS HAD 9000 LEEDS HAD 11000 AND WE KNOW OTHER CLUBS HAVE HAD MORE WHY NOT RETURN THE LOT AND PLAY THE BLOODY KIDS SOD THEM AND THE HEALTH AND SAFTY CRAP SOULESS ALONG WITH THE SPURS BRIGADE OF SUE TILLING SHE DOESNT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT HER OWN SUPPORTERS WE HAVE SEEN THAT WITH 1882 AND BADDEIL SHE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL AND EVEN LESS ABOUT HER CLUB ET ELL.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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why are you surprised? You only need to look at their history to realise this is exactly what to expect of them. in most languages around the world their name is synonimous with – lowdowndirtythievingscumsuckingpigfuckingarsehole. Fact!!
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Shemi-final? Shurely shome mishtake? Arshenal won’t get beyond the third round thish year!
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Have one on me as well 😉
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Ash well? Well, fanksh!
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Czyrko may have been on the sauce but it sharpens his eyesight – the original had the NLD as a ‘long-awaited semi-final’ – now changed. That’s what happens when in full-flow ranting.
Regards, Alan
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Got a bit previous there – have to wait a bit longer for that 😉
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Of course it’s disgraceful, Alan, but when did Arsenal ever do Spurs any favours (even if it was the ‘right’ and ‘reciprocal’ thing to do)? Oh for the days when you could just turn up and get in (or get locked out) and simply stand. Well, maybe not the locked out bit.
Incidentally, did you mean Highbury (not Hillsborough) when Wolves played Spurs in the 1981 FA Cup semi-final replay mid week. I was at that match (we won 3-0). So was the original semi at Hillsborough the previous Saturday? Can’t recall.
Spurs were always the ones who had to travel the furthest when they drew a Midlands team in the semis. I remember being at the Spurs-Forest FA Cup semi in 1967 when I was 15. I missed 10 minutes of the first half because of coach delays. Talk about over capacity heaving in the crowd (that dreaded end, or at least I think it was) ..I just managed to see both goals in our 2-1 win.
Back to the point ..good for you to alert everyone to this gross and contemptible treatment.
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yeah, the first semi v Wolves was at Hillsborough, which I mentioned because of the terrible crush that could have turned very nasty if not for the fact that the police let fans onto the pitch – which when Liverpool stood at the same end 8 years later, they didn’t…
One point about this is, it should not be up to Arsenal or any other side to give us favours – there’s an FA rule, then there isn’t. Should not be up to clubs – the competition is bigger than any one team.
Regards, Alan
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I agree, Allocate them one box for WHL, make a statement.
I too was there to see Ricky’s bullet goal in the wolves semi.
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Only reason Alan, is they fear us, always have done, always will.
9000 hard chore Spurs fans singing will bring their roof down.
Even with this allocation,we will be loud, and roar our team on to beat the nomadic red Arseanal ;-).
COY MIGHTY SPURS
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I’m much more interested in the game.The business is the business and thats the way things are going.
They spend money and they want money.The Bottom line is not the High Line its the bottom line.
But thats show business.the world has already changed and yet players who kiss their badges and piss off 3 months later for more money are no different and fans who would leave their jobs for more money are no different either.
It is what it is.The business that was chosen.Want the simple life? Watch a pub team.
This is life and everything else is supply and demand.
All I want now is to see a winner and Im quite happy to watch them on Television these days and its not for them,its for me.
I do love Tottenham and I want them to win Its really not for them to feel good its for me.
Arent we all selfish?
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Weeelll, thing is, the way the clubs and powers that be treat the fans is fundamentally and perhaps irrevocably changing the relationship between fans and the game itself, regardless of who you support. I don’t really want to sit back and let business spoil the game I love. Business will come and go, the supporters are in it for life.
The two aren’t totally incompatible. A bit of compromise will do it – yet in this example there’s no consideration of the fans.
Regards, Alan
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But the messiahs we believe in also some and go.
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It’s about time this was sorted out. With the PL limits being so low, this was an opportunity for more of our fans to go. Shameful from both clubs in my opinion.
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