On Monday, Spurs published their latest financial results. Revenue was down, and the word of the week was ‘sustainable’, as in Daniel Levy’s insistence that the club’s investment in transfers and salaries had to remain within sustainable limits dictated by income. Time flies – it’s Friday and it’s all about Ange’s ear. The team took the chairman at face value – losing at Stamford Bridge is eminently sustainable.
Over the years, I’ve said how this fixture should not be used as the benchmark to judge the team. I wish it were otherwise, that we could rise to the challenge and out-perform our bitter rivals, but for the moment at least, it’s beyond us and we move on. However, last night’s weak, insipid excuse for a performance sadly was indeed typical of how Spurs have been playing lately. Players drifted around the pitch without making any significant impact on proceedings, going through the motions of worn-out tactics that long since ceased to work on motivated opponents ready and prepared to exploit our predictable routines. There was simply nothing there. Nobody achieved anything. Nobody tried to change anything. Maddison was good for five minutes or so near the end. That’s all I’ve got.
I’d describe this as shocking, except I wasn’t shocked. First five minutes, they have a quick striker, long ball down the middle and we’re nowhere. Comedy moments as the ball bounces around and clatters against the post. I shrugged rather than shouted. Such calamity has become the norm.
And so supporters enter that state of purgatory all too familiar to Spurs fans, where we all know the manager will go but we continue to suffer until we can move on. The myths of religion suggest this is to a higher plane, except for Spurs fans it is more likely to be another state of suffering, but I shall cling on to the fragile hope of salvation.
I can’t envisage any scenario where Ange holds his job into next season. ‘When not if’ seems inescapably to be the only question. I take no pleasure in saying this. I wanted this proud, motivated man to succeed. He was right for my club, so I hoped. I applauded his brave, attacking football and his value-base of teamwork and support for his players, plus his passion for the game, a beacon of authenticity in an increasingly dreary, cynical football world driven by greed.
Except it hasn’t worked. Granted, we will never truly know what he could have achieved if not blighted by injuries. However, the benchmark for any manager, at any level, is whether they can create a team where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts, and in this respect Ange has failed. Indeed, we often play as a group of individuals with little connection or cohesion, and certainly the players’ confidence and ebullience of the early months has become a distant memory.
He’s done nothing to deal with our problems in defence, with too much space in front of the back four and our penalty box defending is shoddy, as was shown last night with their goal, where a midfield player can lurk unnoticed near our 6 yard box. Udogie should have come across but no midfielder tracked that movement. We constantly, predictably give the ball away. Players are easily isolated on the ball and concede possession. This has been going on for a season and a half.
Some of the players are not up to playing to the level he expects, especially in that central midfield area, and we’ll never know why the club did not act to plug those gaps with a different type of player, one who could also release some of the pressure on talent like Bentacur and Sarr, and enable them to flourish. Our attack, once fast and threatening, is now leaden and predictable.
Ange is rattled. He knows that it’s not working and has to face the bitter reality that he has failed. He cuts an isolated figure on the touchline and, as I understand it, within the club itself. The cupping his hand to the ear gesture will only serve to alienate supporters, bearing in mind that broadly within the ground he’s not been subject to significant negativity. Away matches may be different. I hear from good people who go away that at times the atmosphere has been hostile, which includes abuse directed towards the manager and players, some of it racist.
It is hard and I don’t condone personal abuse in any form, but he like any other manager has to understand that it’s not about his personal vindication, it’s about the team, about fans and team together. He’s created them and us, and it’s not on.
Managers come and go, the hierarchy that runs the club, dictates policy and shapes the ethos where at one of the wealthiest clubs in the world, winning something is a secondary, minor consideration, remains the same. Tottenham are a club devoid of ambition and self-belief, and this comes from the top. For the board, failure is indeed sustainable.
Two home games to come including a European quarter final yet optimism is at rock bottom. The mood among supporters is desultory and doom-laden as we watch yet another iteration of our team decompose then disintegrate before our eyes. It’s horrible, it’s a mess, it’s Tottenham.
yep….
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You’re right of course, apart from the first two months of Ange’s tenure it has been a steady down hill decline, even before the injuries. Everyone agrees Ange is a fair dinkum bloke, but the proof is in the pudding, and the pudding is very flat and uninspiring. Ange will be gone, his status as coach is untenable. So same old, same old. Yawn.
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Ange is not a fair dinkum bloke he’s a nasty piece of work and the truth of his personality has shown itself more and more during the last 18 months.
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Keep trying to post Alan…
As always a great piece. Im done too with Ange. He is no doubt a nice and proud guy but he is very limited in his vision. The truth of the situation is we should have been doing better with the players we have (that includes the injuries) The system was terrible. Marking was not existent in many games and the high energy game that lasted till Dec 2023 was taken over by circulation and players bumping in to each other. Defence had more holes than Jarlsberg.
As to the Chelsea game.Instead of payback with our players back it was symmetry with last years Chelsea Disaster. A fitting ending.
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I came to this assessment with a large inner ball of frustration and anger that needed to be vented and released in these columns but you have pitched it perfectly. I don’t enjoy slagging off my team and I want to applaud the good things. But there is nothing to applaud. I twigged AP at the end of last season – he is a slightly hinky type who professes to have a thick skin and not care what anyone thinks but then spends an awful lot of time failing to justify the increasingly poor displays. There are no more excuses left. The players have voted with their feet and know that AP is gone at the end of the season so why care? It’s a story as old as the game itself. But what makes my blood boil is the lack of pride and professionalism that characterises these defeats. Do you think the Liverpool, ManC, or Arsenal teams would accept such wasteful passing and the virus of unforced errors that decorate our performances? Why should we accept anything less? We need a new manager and a new midfield boss along the lines of Dave Mackay or Alan Mullery to demand total commitment and professionalism from those around them. Nominating Son as captain was another signal example of AP’s judgement. Too many missteps from a man ill equipped for the smarts of the Prem. Let’s get this season out of the way, Cardoso into the team (he’s good), and start all over again.
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Mourinho couldn’t get the players to perform, neither could Conte, briefly neither could Nuno, now neither can Ange. But, hey, just fire the manager and it’s all going to be OK. There’s a saying that those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Incidentally if you don’t live within your means and don’t have oil wells then the result isn’t success it’s bankruptcy.
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Levy has done a good job on the financial side and the building side and lets face it,that is pure business. On the football side its another matter.
What Levy has done is bring in managers who he thought would do a job and they never quite made it.
There is a culture there and this is one of expectation. Both Levy and the fans expect a manager to be able to at least get these players to do well.Now we know the first 10 games were an anomaly because the tactics were sort of trickery. Push the full backs up. But teams adjusted and Ange couldnt.
The crowd demanded Levy buy better players (I do think we need a couple of top players too a defensive mid and physical striker both of quality would have done the trick)
But at the minimum Ange couldnt sustain anything…and stayed with the ‘Its how we play,mate’ mantra but the play was a disaster with wide open opposition attackers and only a counter going forward.
It all wasnt enough and no new ideas. Just Ange’s miserable face and a few excuses
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The detection away from Levy in your point is unsuccessful..Levy is intimately responsible for the consistent failure to appt top tier football recruitment people as his football acumen is shoddy. We have spent big to buy substandard players for many years and there’s no getting from that fact!
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Ange = Rex Ryan (US NFL)
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Thanks for the measured thoughts, as ever – think most of us are on the same page.
The one thing I don’t buy is that the injury crisis derailed Ange. The cracks in the system have been evident for over a year, many of which you cite in your blog. It’s been consistently pointed out that Bournemouth faced similar injury challenges, with less talented players, and the team was adapted to try to cope. Did we truly adapt? We were actually lucky that Gray and Bergvall stepped up; both are heroes of the season for me given their ages. Boys leading men.
Ange’s Achilles heel(s) is his stubborness and lack of ability to respond tactically in a game in a meaningful way – cupping an ear doesn’t change the evidence of lirerally dozens of games. When he goes, after we lose in the Europa, I’m not sure he’ll have learnt much. I don’t think he’s evolved as a manager, at least I haven’t seen it.
I always thought Mourinho and Conte were wrong for our club, and I hated Nuno’s negball. I didn’t, however, view any of them as out of their depth. From this vantage point I think Ange was and is. Not his fault. Apparently he was, like Nuno, last choice on the list. But then what manager of demonstrable quality, on the up, would come to Spurs now? We bury reputations. Fabulous facilities, some real talent in the squad, London-based. Yet you’d have to think twice about whether you can do anything with a club which just cannot seem to turn the corner.
Whoever comes next we’ll get behind them because we’re Tottenham. They’ll have a bounce because not much can be worse, in terms of perfomance, than this season. It’s hard to keep the faith in this spin cycle though, and I’ve been Spurs for 50+ years. Still, I look forward to cheering on the young guns next season. The senior players need to take a long, hard look at themselves. What I won’t be doing is acclaiming a new messiah in the next manager. Forget delusional futures and never-never projects. Match by match is all we have. COYS.
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Boys leading men. Excellent line and so true. I currently have Gray as my player of the season when taking everything into account. He could easily have fallen victim to the ‘not my fault’ disease but played above himself game after game. When seasoned pro’s had to look to an 18 year old for consistency and leadership, it says a lot about the character (or lack of) in the team.
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ALAN, once again brilliantly put.
Oh so sad, but ALL true.
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“I hear from good people who go away that at times the atmosphere has been hostile, which includes abuse directed towards the manager and players, some of it racist.”
How is hostility against anyone at the club helpful? In what sense can apoplectic fan misbehaviour realistically be described as “support”?
After nearly seventy years of being a Spurs fan, it still bothers me (a lot) when we lose, but my feelings are restricted to sadness and disappointment. I don’t feel fury and vitriol against the club or anyone involved with it. I don’t feel the counter-productive desire to rant on talk back radio, go ballistic on social media or support demonstrations.
But win, lose or draw, I do enjoy reading your constructive articles, Alan. Thanks.
As for Postecoglou, I dislike the constant merry-go-round of managerial sackings and new appointments. This is a policy which is about as useful as sacking the tea-lady. But it’s been made clear that the only (remote) chance he has of being here next season is winning the Europa League next month.
So let’s back him to do that.
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what a fantastic piece of writing. “at one of the wealthiest clubs in the world, winning something is a secondary, minor consideration, Tottenham are a club devoid of ambition and self-belief, and this comes from the top. For the board, failure is indeed sustainable.”
I’ve supported Spurs for over 40 years and this sums up our club. They don’t hide this fact though and respect to Daniel who is open about profit above silverware. He does indeed manage our expectations.
I miss the days where a fixture list conjured up images of fighting for the cup or glorious victories. Dreams of silverware possibly coming our way. Now it is just one game at a time. The manager is just a scapegoat. Levy knows what he’s doing. He can’t afford a manager to be successful. Winning a trophy means that he would then have to build on that team and invest. Expectation will be high. We would need to compete financially on the wages front with the likes of city and Chelsea.
No. Nearly rans and second best is enough to keep the fans coming through the turnstiles. Imagine if we got to a cup final and could possibly win it. What would Levy do? Oh hang on…
yes failure is sustainable. It’s the model he’s built our club on. Fans know this. Fans accept it. No manager will change it.
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Hi Alan,
“He that is proud eats up himself: pride is his own glass, his own trumpet, his own chronicle.” (W.S.)
I didn’t think Poch or Nuno, who was never given a chance, were especially proud people but Mourinho, Conte & Imposter, their glasses overfloweth with pride.
I don’t blame the players although I agree Madison is a frustrating individual. I saw nothing different in their approach to Thursday’s night game, still trying to achieve a positive outcome through the use of the Imposter’s mundane tactics.
I feel the players are reaching the point where despair and frustration rise to the surface and, if that is the case, the message will have reached Levy, through his brother in-law Alan Dixon and so I expect a coaching change sooner rather than later.
Hibberni.
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Yes Ange is a goner. But the Spursy booing supporters will turn on the next Manager when the going gets tough. Probably as in the past booing before half time!. Never happened at Newcastle or Liverpool. When they struggled for years their supporters lifted the team. Our Spursy supporters should take a share of the blame for team failures.
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as Keith Burkenshaw said in 1984 “their used to be a football club here” the emphasis of the club changed when we left the old WHL and became commercial. The old saying that what happens on the pitch on matchday reflects what happens behind the scene during the week is so true
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Having been a fan for a long time I struggle with the short term memory of so many fans. Our lack of mental strength isn’t down to Ange, or Levy. It goes back a long way. Ardilles made the comment once that while on their day Spurs could beat anyone on another day they could lose to anyone, that’s never really changed. Even under Burkenshaw we were a streaky team, it’s just we were able to put runs together to win cups, but not the league. Liverpool’s mental strength was laid down by Shankley and Paisley and is still there, no one has ever done that at Spurs. A manager can change a club’s culture, Wenger did it at Arsenal. But it takes a long time. Playing sack the manager every couple of years and pretending it’s all going to magically solve itself will solve nothing.
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Tottenham hotspur is a business. One of the business strands is revenue from playing in the English Premier league. Another two strands are the League and FA cup. European football is a bonus ball win. Woman’s football is the final strands.
American Football, music concerts, boxing events.
Conferences, soon to be hotels. All strands of the winning game.
I am 60 years old and have supported Spurs since I was 5. My expectations of Glory, To Dare, is to do is now simply winning a game, any competition, home or away. But certainly not a big game, certainly not against Arsenal or Chelsea. Possibly against West Ham , Crystal Palace, Brentford. Maybe against Fulham.
spurs fans are resilient creatures and fantastic at batting off their mates slagging/sledging. My current favourite is ” See you in Bilbao “. But if Ange loses in this competition, Daniel will drop the axe once again, as if he’s an important Chairman at a big football club. Sadly, fans are going to have to accept the reality of the situation, we are not a big football club. We only buy young potential, that will be sold for profit and will realise their dream of success. The older player bought for the first team squad, are intact all decent players, but Sadly short of the mark when it comes to competing for honours. A cup run is our only chance, so long as we don’t have a big game. So, the reality is for all spurs fans is deal with your expectations when supporting this strand of business.
lastly, sleep easy, the business is successful but the reality of strand success in terms of football is a pipe dream.
if you desire football succes as a spurs fan measured in Premier league titles or European competitors. Buckle up, it’s going to be a long ride.
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Thanks Alan. It’s hard to disagree. As others have said, in reality, since the 1960’s the only time Spurs have genuinely challenged for the league title was under Poch in 15/16 and 16/17. The rightly venerated Burkinshaw team of the early 80’s never got remotely close. Those of us fortunate enough to be able to follow the team everywhere travel each season to Stamford Bridge and Anfield (in particular) knowing the game is lost before it kicks off. That is some kind of deep systemic issue which pre-dates the current ownership. All of that said, its not the team’s insipid performances that make me contemplate cutting back on my Spurs obsession. The hardest part of all is having to listen to the vile abuse from so many Spurs “fans” (directed at pretty much everyone connected with the club) “everywhere we go”. Its depressing and soul-destroying. I realise that this kind of bile is not actually Spurs or even football specific (so many people seem SO angry all of the time) but its really grinding me down.
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I don’t disagree with much in the post, except I can’t see the point of sacking Ange. We have had every type of Manager: English to European to Latin American; from ‘coo, look at his c.v.’ to ‘hasn’t got enough experience for the Premier’. Most fans want Levy out, nearly all believe that the club structure needs a complete change. I just feel that sacking Ange takes the focus away from the real problems and it probably suits Levy to keep our attention on the coach/manager. Give Ange the summer and another window, the time to look at his position should be this November and then we will see if he is good enough. Look at the club – what have we got to lose?
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I think losing 16 games (at least) this season is a pretty good reason to send him on his way. The injury curse contributed to some of these defeats but since the injured players have returned there has not been any noticeable improvement in style, energy, or results. And it’s not as if we fielded a team of duds during December, January, February. Most of them were internationals. They just played like a team of strangers. The litmus test of a manager is how he handles adversity and unfortunately AP showed his limitations. Pondering all of this makes me think how good Poch was. If Conteh and Mourinho couldn’t create a winning team, then it illustrates the excellent work by Poch in creating the best team we’ve seen in recent times. I’m not necessarily advocating for Poch’s return. Just reflecting on his benchmarks for consistency.
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I think a lot of the anger from Spurs fans stems from the high ticket prices but watching the team be out performed by so called lesser clubs, the disconnect from the club hierarchy towards its own fans, put that with the lack of leadership and desire from the players to put on consistent performances each game from too many players and it will result in putting many fans in more than disappointing feeling each week.
I agree that new managers need time to implement their way of playing but if any manager is getting players that don’t perform each week or the club don’t bring in players that care about winning, just want a paycheck until they decide that Spurs are not ambitious enough so want to move, or essentially use us as a stepping stone for a couple seasons then that’s not gonna help long term either. Maybe the idea of buying 18-20 yr olds and have them play FOR the team that gave them a chance and can be consistent weekly as they only want to win trophy’s at Spurs is the way to go, maybe Gray, Bergvall, Tel, and our loanees Donley, Dorrington, Devine, Keely, Lankshear are the future, but will take time, maybe just do what Ferguson did at the start of his Man U career and only wanted players who were man united fans to play for his side, meaning a loss would hurt more and be determined not to lose next game, but alas, do they exist for Spurs….
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S’ton
I was enjoying watching our ‘defensive approach’ in the 2nd half until…
I’m afraid all our players are guilty of ball-watching when it comes to defensive duties, couple that with the tendency for the defence to move on block sideways to meet the point of attack, then it’s no wonder that opposition players appear unnoticed round the back.
Hibberni.
P.s. ‘The Swiss Ramble’ has published his ‘easy to read’ analysis of our 2023-24 results on his website for those interested.
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One of the things about the “sack the manager” philosophy is how while fans will scream from the rooftops that Ange must go they are strangely shy about telling us who his replacement should be. That’s a bit odd, after all firing someone just creates a vacancy, you only improve the situation by replacing him with someone better. Of course after Conte and Mourinho it’s pretty obvious that’s a lot easier said than done. Maybe why these people focus on the easy bit.
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Hi Anon,
Firstly, we cannot continue in the same vein (4-3-3) using the touchlines for transition and no plan B or C.
It hasn’t worked, it isn’t working and there’s no reason to believe it will work in the future.
I have posted previously that we need a head coach (with his team) who can assess the strengths of the players and translate them into playing styles which will provide balance and results.
We do not need a ‘Manager’ who’s only purpose is to impose a style of play which may not be suitable to our current squad.
If we want our Tottenham back then, I feel, it will mean less reliance on possession football and a move towards more relationship football. In other words passing into space knowing that a teammate is already moving into that space.
Marco Silva could be that person. I suggest you Google him and his style of play.
Hibberni.
P.s. The opinions above have appeared in my previous posts.
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Hibberni , why would we want our Tottenham back ? What I want is a team with discipline and mental toughness, one that when it’s having a bad day will still find a way to win. We’ve seen it from Liverpool this season, I’ve never seen it from Spurs. So no , I don’t want to go backwards, to be a club that has the occasional cup run but can’t compete in the league. We should be better than that.
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Hi Anon,
It’s A question of balance.
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree with those sentiments, they have to be part of the package going forward also.
But, at the same time, I would like to see some freedom of expression in the attacking third.
I do believe though that discipline and mental toughness starts with the way in which we defend and how we respond to losing possession.
Maybe Conte had a point when he said “we must learn to suffer”.
Hibberni.
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Eintracht.
We all know the Imposter’s game plan so why does he play two wingers who are clearly not up to the task?
There has to be change, hopefully starting on Sunday.
Hibberni.
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Hibberni, your comments kind of make the point. To most Spurs supporters mental strength and discipline are a nice to have. In reality they are the foundation on which everything else is built, without them nothing else really matters. If you look teams as different as Liverpool and Forest they both have those qualities in abundance. The fact we have lacked them over the years can’t be just down to the managers, they can’t all have got it wrong. Maybe the attitude of the fans is reflected by the club.
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Hi Anon,
Part of the problem, I believe, has been Levy’s lack of judgement in footballing matters and having had to rely on questionable advice in the past.
I’m praying that Paratici is rehired in this respect given the quality of his player recommendations, the update interviews, the reorganisation of the academy and being present in the dugout (for home games at least). That’s a hands-on approach which the club needs.
And now we have a new Chief Executive Officer who, if his titled is to be believed, will be running the club albeit under the auspices of Levy and hopefully this will lead to change, which if it’s going to be meaningful, must come from the top.
Hibberni.
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Hibberni the lack of discipline and mental strength I’m talking about go back to at least the late 1970’s when I first started regularly going to games. This of course is long before Levy arrived at the club. See the problem ? Trying to pretend that some boogey man is responsible for problems that long predate his arrival just doesn’t make any sense.
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Hi Anon,
I find that trying to connect the 1970’s to the 2020’s would be a stretch of my imagination, sorry.
I was a trader for 29 years so the ‘here and now’ and the ‘future’ governs my outlook on stuff and I hope is apparent in my comments here.
As for the boogeyman, if I must cast my mind back that would be one Steve Hitchen 16/17 to 21/22, responsible for recruitment and technical director.
Please take a look at his transfer record on Transfermarkt. During his recruitment reign there were only three incoming players who made any impact, Sissoko, Moura & Hojbjerg.
Hibberni.
P.S. I have commented previously on the blog about Hitch
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Wolves 2.
You’re right Alan, it’s a mess and it’s getting messier.
Clearly we gifted Wolves 4 goals but more importantly what does this tell us about the players’ mentality going forward?
This is hardly ideal preparation for Thursday.
Hibberni.
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Eintracht 2.
So there is some determination & belief (to win) lurking in the shadows. It’s a shame that those qualities have not yet imbued every player & the Imposter needs to take a long hard look at those who are failing to make any impact.
We have Forest & L’pool before Mayday (pun intended) and the chance to tarnish the label “with Tottenham you never know which team is going to turn up”.
Hibberni.
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i think some of the players have given up on the league regarding results, Romero can leave in summer and good luck to him, he hasn’t played well in league for good few weeks now, he obvs just wants to win Europa and then go to Spain, I would only play him in Europa and drop him for league games rest of season. AP obvs not give a hoot about it either, since he knows he gone in summer too no matter what, it makes no sense to play CB for 45 mins then take off at half time, his reason apparently is BC bodo fake is over 10 days away so needed to give them game time then rest, presuming they both missing ‘pool game so, but then why not play them for 90 mins and make attacking subs instead, since we were two down. Last night’s display was very poor for first 20 mins, everyone knows Forest play counter attack, they also are very good defensively so were happy to defend cross after cross, but with us it seems to be easy for teams, seems all they have to do is attack us for opening 15-20 mins, get couple of goals then sit back and defend. I know we dominated for most match but that was expected, it’s as if the boo’s at HT made them think we best try win. Bodo are not awful, they beat some big teams so far, especially at home, so if we are to progress we need to convert a lot more chances next Thurs as their pitch like the AZ one but may be colder, and we know we didn’t do great that night either.
watching Kulu interview afterwards seems to me that they took know AP gone, and maybe some are pleased with that. He mentioned how start of season was reason we are in this position due to injuries which we now know is bc AP pushed players too hard since he admitted it recently. He also stayed all players need to take responsibility but was saying too many crosses into the box are given away, but this is due to the system we play, once the opposition break our LB/RB are either in middle or up to high to get back, meaning CB have to push over leaving room in middle. While AP constantly say about amount of defeats even when asked “what can you say to the fans about the amount of defeats” to only say it ‘not good enough’ or ‘unacceptable’ as fans don’t bloody know this already. It’s plain to see his system figured out by most teams. I get that he may win the Europa bit I think the players want it for themselves more than for him. Sooner he gone the better.
i also get the impression that not many managers want to take the spurs job due to levy history of hire n fire. Andoni, my choice, has apparently refused talk as well as Silva’s representives. Frank may take it, and we know Poch wants back in the future but can’t blame managers knowing that of they took job it be only a 2 year stint before removed.
finally, we have failed to beat Fulham, Bournemouth, Leicester, Wolves, while Arse, Newcastle, Forest, Chelsea have done double over us, with Liverpool, palace and Brighton possibly added to that list, to me that’s unacceptable. At the very least you would expect the players to turn up for the home games but alas ita not gonna happen as they don’t care IMO. We need to start recruiting players that WANT to play for Spurs bc it’s a big club, not bc they get paid more.
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*Bodo game, not fake, bloody autocorrect
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This aged well
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